Thursday, August 28, 2008

Clipping John's Wings; Pastor Shepherd Has Potential

I'm sure many of you know my son, John. As CEO of Fake Kenneth Copeland Ministries, John has been getting a lot of face time lately, with all the persecution we've been getting from Mr. Grassley and the biased news coverage of the Left Wing Media, an adjunct of the National Democrat Party.

Unfortunately, John isn't doing nearly as well as I had hoped. Okay, okay, that's an understatement. Our marketing team informed me last week that John is faring very poorly with focus groups. Specific comments include: "boring," "appears disinterested," "glassy-eyed," "not as funny as his daddy," and "much too tall."

You can image how heartbreaking this news was to me. As a father, I've always wanted the best for all my kids. And, as you well know, I've done everything within my power -- and, of course, within IRS guideline -- to get it for them.

Yet, even with all the advantages that my money and my power and my fame has bought brought him, John has failed to perform. It wasn't an easy decision. Actually, it's probably been one of the most difficult decisions I've ever had to make. But you know what? I'm a little god man of God. I must be strong. I must set an example for others.

So effective today, bless god, I'm clipping John's wings. That means no more press appearances. No more talk shows. No more all-expense paid hunting trips in my the ministry's Citation X-10 jet. And no, John will not inherit my kingdom here at Fake Kenneth Copeland Ministries.

Now for the good news. We're now taking applications for Executive VP of Fake Kenneth Copleand Ministries. With all the perks we offer, you can be sure the competition for such a position is going to be fierce.

But rather than posting a list of qualifications on Monster.Com, I thought it'd just be much easir to just post an actual video of the kind of person I'm looking for. His name is Pastor Shepherd, a fellow Texan out of Houston. He's a hard-working, ambitious young man, with some terrific ideas about how to market the gospel minister to the poor. He and his staff are doing some great work through his fledgling ministry, Prayer Hour. Mark my words, partners, this young man is definitely going places.

Pastor Shepherd, if you're out there, give me a call. My number is 1-800-GOD-CASH. We need to talk, Brother.

4 comments:

Pastor Shepherd said...

Dear FKC,

I really appreciate your ministry. If you really want your ministry to be successful (and your son), you should consider having your ministry donate to my ministry.

Love,

Pastor Shepherd

P.S. The Prayer Hour link on your page does not work.

Fake Kenneth Copeland said...

Pastor shepherd:

Thanks for visiting, brother. That's real chutzpah, asking me for money. Where, have you been, son? In case you haven't noticed, FKCM isn't in the habit of sowing seed into the ministry of others. But dang, boy, I like your spunk! You've got promise!

BTW, I've fixed the link. I've got my eye on you.

Anonymous said...

Dear Kenneth Copeland,

Today I tried finding Kenneth Copeland’s email address at

Kenneth Copeland Ministries
Fort Worth, TX 76192-0001
Telephone: 800-600-7395
http://www.kcm.org

When I asked the lady at that phone number for the email address, she said, "wait a minute." She went away and then came back with the website address. I explained to her that I wanted the email address not the website address. She said, "wait a minute," again and then she came back and told me that she did not know his email address.

I am a Jehovah’s Witness and I would like receive Kenneth Copeland’s opinion on four questions.

The first question now is, “Where on his website home page or contact page is his personal email address?”

Next, where does the Bible say that a local Christian Pastor should make any paycheck at all from his ministry, especially enough for a private plane.

Next, why does the Bible contain no mention of any christian congregation collecting tithes from Acts to Revelation?

And finally, where is the Biblical proof that tithing did not pass away with the written law covenant of the Hebrew scriptures?

TITHING
(Numbers 18:21-29) 21 “And to the sons of Le´vi, look! I have given every tenth part in Israel as an inheritance in return for their service that they are carrying on, the service of the tent of meeting. 22 And the sons of Israel should no more come near to the tent of meeting to incur sin so as to die. 23 And the Levites themselves must carry on the service of the tent of meeting, and they are the ones who should answer for their error. It is a statute to time indefinite during YOUR generations that in the midst of the sons of Israel they should not get possession of an inheritance. 24 For the tenth part of the sons of Israel, which they will contribute to Jehovah as a contribution, I have given to the Levites as an inheritance. That is why I have said to them, ‘In the midst of the sons of Israel they should not get possession of an inheritance.’” 25 Then Jehovah spoke to Moses, saying: 26 “And you should speak to the Levites, and you must
say to them, ‘YOU will receive from the sons of Israel the tenth part that I have given to YOU from them for YOUR inheritance, and YOU must contribute from it as a contribution to Jehovah a tenth part of the tenth part. 27 And it must be reckoned to YOU as YOUR contribution, like the grain of the threshing floor and like the full produce of the wine or oil press. 28 In this way YOU yourselves also will contribute a contribution to Jehovah from all YOUR tenth parts that YOU will receive from the sons of Israel, and from them YOU must give the contribution to Jehovah to Aaron the priest. 29 From all the gifts to YOU, YOU will contribute every sort of contribution to Jehovah, of the very best of it, as some holy thing from them.’
(Nehemiah 13:10) 10 And I got to find out that the very portions of the Levites had not been given [them], so that the Levites and the singers doing the work went running off, each one to his own field.
(Nehemiah 10:37) 37 Also, the firstfruits of our coarse meal and our contributions and the fruitage of every sort of tree, new wine and oil we should bring to the priests to the dining halls of the house of our God, also the tenth from our soil to the Levites, as they, the Levites, are the ones receiving a tenth in all our agricultural cities.
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(Hebrews 7:12) 12 For since the priesthood is being changed, there comes to be of necessity a change also of the law.
(1 Peter 2:9) 9 But YOU are “a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for special possession, that YOU should declare abroad the excellencies” of the one that called YOU out of darkness into his wonderful light.
(Colossians 2:13-14) 13 Furthermore, though YOU were dead in YOUR trespasses and in the uncircumcised state of YOUR flesh, [God] made YOU alive together with him. He kindly forgave us all our trespasses 14 and blotted out the handwritten document against us, which consisted of decrees and which was in opposition to us; and He has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the torture stake.
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(1 Thessalonians 2:9) 9 Certainly YOU bear in mind, brothers,our labor and toil. It was with working night and day, so as not to put an expensive burden upon any one of YOU, that we preached the good news of God to YOU.

(2 Thessalonians 3:6-15) 6 Now we are giving YOU orders, brothers, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, to withdraw from every brother walking disorderly and not according to the tradition YOU received from us. 7 For YOU yourselves know the way YOU ought to imitate us, because we did not behave disorderly among YOU 8 nor did we eat food from anyone free. To the contrary, by labor and toil night and day we were working so as not to impose an expensive burden upon any one of YOU. 9 Not that we do not have authority, but in order that we might offer ourselves as an example to YOU to imitate us. 10 In fact, also, when we were with YOU, we used to give YOU this order: “If anyone does not want to work, neither let him eat.” 11 For we hear certain ones are walking disorderly among YOU, not working at all but meddling with what does not concern them. 12 To such persons we give the order and exhortation in [the] Lord Jesus Christ that by working with
quietness they should eat food they themselves earn. 13 For YOUR part, brothers, do not give up in doing right. 14 But if anyone is not obedient to our word through this letter, keep this one marked, stop associating with him, that he may become ashamed. 15 And yet do not be considering him as an enemy, but continue admonishing him as a brother.
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TITHE

A tenth part, or 10 percent, given or paid as a tribute, especially for religious purposes.

The Bible tells of two instances prior to the setting up of the Law covenant in which a tenth part of possessions was paid to God or to his representative. The first of these was on the occasion when Abraham gave Melchizedek one tenth of the spoils of his victory over Chedorlaomer and his allies. (Ge 14:18-20) The apostle Paul cites this incident as proof that Christ’s priesthood according to the manner of Melchizedek is superior to that of Levi, since Levi, being in the loins of Abraham, paid tithes, in effect, to Melchizedek. (Heb 7:4-10) The second case concerned Jacob, who vowed at Bethel to give one tenth of his substance to God.—Ge 28:20-22.

These two accounts, however, are merely instances of voluntarily giving one tenth. There is no record to the effect that Abraham or Jacob commanded their descendants to follow such examples, thereby establishing a religious practice, custom, or law. It would have been superfluous for Jacob, if already under a compulsory obligation to pay tithes, to vow to do so, as he did. It is therefore evident that the tithing arrangement was not a custom or a law among the early Hebrews. It was instituted with the inauguration of the Law covenant, not before.Mosaic

The first tithe, consisting of one tenth of the produce of the land and fruit trees and (evidently of the increase) of the herds and flocks, was brought to the sanctuary and given to the Levites, since they had no inheritance in the land but were devoted to the service of the sanctuary. (Le 27:30-32; Nu 18:21, 24) The Levites, in turn, gave a tenth of what they received to the Aaronic priesthood for their support.—Nu 18:25-29.

Evidently the grain was threshed and the fruit of the vine and of the olive tree was converted into wine and oil before tithing. (Nu 18:27, 30; Ne 10:37) If an Israelite wished to give money instead of this produce, he could do so, provided he added an additional fifth to the valuation. (Le 27:31) But it was different with the flock and the herd. As the animals came out of the pen one by one through a gate, the owner stood by the gate with a rod and marked every tenth one as the tithe, without examination or selection.—Le 27:32, 33.

It seems there was an additional tithe, a second tenth, set aside each year for purposes other than the direct support of the Levitical priesthood, though the Levites shared in it. Normally it was used and enjoyed in large measure by the Israelite family when assembling together at the national festivals. In cases where the distance to Jerusalem was too great for the convenient transport of this tithe, then the produce was converted into money and this, in turn, was used in Jerusalem for the household’s sustenance and enjoyment during the holy convention there. (De 12:4-7, 11, 17, 18; 14:22-27) Then, at the end of every third and sixth years of the seven-year sabbatical cycle, this tithe, instead of being used to defray expenses at the national assemblies, was set aside for the Levites, alien residents, widows, and fatherless boys in the local community.—De 14:28, 29; 26:12.

These tithing laws binding on Israel were not excessive. Nor should it be overlooked that God promised to prosper Israel by opening “the floodgates of the heavens” if his tithing laws were obeyed. (Mal 3:10; De 28:1, 2, 11-14) When the people became negligent as to tithing, the priesthood suffered, for the priests and Levites were forced to spend their time in secular work and consequently neglected their ministerial services. (Ne 13:10) Such unfaithfulness tended to bring about a decline in true worship. Sadly, when the ten tribes fell away to calf worship, they used the tithe to support that false religion. (Am 4:4, 5) On the other hand, when Israel was faithful to Jehovah and was under the rule of righteous administrators, tithing for the Levites was restored, and true to Jehovah’s promise, there were no shortages.—2Ch 31:4-12; Ne 10:37, 38; 12:44; 13:11-13.

Under the Law there was no stated penalty to be applied to a person failing to tithe. Jehovah placed all under a strong moral obligation to provide the tithe; at the end of the three-year tithing cycle, they were required to confess before him that the tithe had been paid in full. (De 26:12-15) Anything wrongfully withheld was viewed as something stolen from God.—Mal 3:7-9.
By the first century C.E., the Jewish religious leaders, particularly among the scribes and Pharisees, were making a sanctimonious show of tithing and other outward works, in a form of worship, but their hearts were far removed from God. (Mt 15:1-9) Jesus reproved them for their selfish, hypocritical attitude, calling attention to their being meticulous to give a tenth even of “the mint and the dill and the cumin”—something they should have done—yet at the same time disregarding “the weightier matters of the Law, namely, justice and mercy and faithfulness.” (Mt 23:23; Lu 11:42) By way of illustration, Jesus contrasted the Pharisee who boastfully felt self-righteous because of his own works of fasting and tithing, with the tax collector who, though considered as nothing by the Pharisee, humbled himself, confessed his sins to God, and begged for divine mercy.—Lu 18:9-14.
No

As Christians, they were encouraged to give support to the Christian ministry both by their own ministerial activity and by material contributions. Instead of giving fixed, specified amounts to defray congregational expenses, they were to contribute “according to what a person has,” giving “as he has resolved in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.” (2Co 8:12; 9:7) They were encouraged to follow the principle: “Let the older men who preside in a fine way be reckoned worthy of double honor, especially those who work hard in speaking and teaching. For the scripture says: ‘You must not muzzle a bull when it threshes out the grain’; also: ‘The workman is worthy of his wages.’” (1Ti 5:17, 18) However, the apostle Paul set an example in seeking to avoid bringing an undue financial burden on the congregation.—Ac 18:3; 1Th 2:9.

I would appreciate your opinion on these Bible teachings.

Thank You,

Donald Gomez Jr.
dwgfinance@yahoo.com

PS,
Tithing for Christians. At no time were first-century Christians commanded to pay tithes. The primary purpose of the tithing arrangement under the Law had been to support Israel’s temple and priesthood; consequently the obligation to pay tithes would cease when that Mosaic Law covenant came to an end as fulfilled, through Christ’s death on the torture stake. (Eph 2:15; Col 2:13, 14) It is true that Levitical priests continued serving at the temple in Jerusalem until it was destroyed in 70 C.E., but Christians from and after 33 C.E. became part of a new spiritual priesthood that was not supported by tithes.—Ro 6:14; Heb 7:12; 1Pe 2:9. Tithing Laws. Jehovah gave Israel tithing laws for definite purposes, apparently involving the use of two tenths of their annual income, except during the Sabbath years, when no tithe was paid, since no income was anticipated. (Le 25:1-12) However, some scholars believe there was only one tithe. Such tithes were
in addition to the firstfruits they were under obligation to offer to Jehovah.—Ex 23:19; 34:26.

Anonymous said...

As Jesus said, many false teachers & prophets will arise & we will know them by their fruits.
Jesus said to be wary of them. Kenneth Copeland is one outstanding example of a top class fraud. Copeland can thump the Bible, blast out verses from the pulpit but all is lost until Copeland realises that he is a fraud. All about $$$$$ & that's it. Cunts come in many disguises & Copeland again is living proof of a preaching-do-nothing cunt. Even a vibrator shoved up Copeland's arsehole will not get him to turn over a new leaf. All fucked up